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0 pointsrst12y ago0 comments

Correction: Yahoo did fight, and lost. The details aren't all released, but here's a precis of what's public:

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2013/06/yahoo-failed-fisa-f...

It's possible that there's as-yet undisclosed legal action with some of the others; the secrecy around just about any proceeding in the FISC makes it very hard to tell.

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sageikosa12y ago

I wondered the same thing. With secret courts and secret hearings, who knows who is fighting or not for our rights?

flexie12y ago

Fighting unconstitutional laws in the phony secret "court" set up by the same laws is not really fighting, is it? It's sort of accepting the terms.

Take the battle to the real courts and ask them to decide on the matter.

talmand12y ago

Exactly how do you get standing to sue the government for something they are not doing with something that does not exist?

sageikosa12y ago

Unfortunately, those are real courts, their functions and jurisdictions have been established by the Congress.

flexie12y ago

If congress can redefine courts into what is basically an administrative panel, then the entire separation of powers can be short-circuited.

It's not a court just because congress says so.

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0 pointsrst12y ago0 comments

Correction: Yahoo did fight, and lost. The details aren't all released, but here's a precis of what's public:

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2013/06/yahoo-failed-fisa-f...

It's possible that there's as-yet undisclosed legal action with some of the others; the secrecy around just about any proceeding in the FISC makes it very hard to tell.

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sageikosa12y ago

I wondered the same thing. With secret courts and secret hearings, who knows who is fighting or not for our rights?

flexie12y ago

Fighting unconstitutional laws in the phony secret "court" set up by the same laws is not really fighting, is it? It's sort of accepting the terms.

Take the battle to the real courts and ask them to decide on the matter.

talmand12y ago

Exactly how do you get standing to sue the government for something they are not doing with something that does not exist?

sageikosa12y ago

Unfortunately, those are real courts, their functions and jurisdictions have been established by the Congress.

flexie12y ago

If congress can redefine courts into what is basically an administrative panel, then the entire separation of powers can be short-circuited.

It's not a court just because congress says so.

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