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0 pointsadeaver12y ago0 comments

You are so right. Why try new things and test new ideas. Everything we have is perfect as it is! No need for a car, walking will get you there! We don't need moving pictures, books are fine!

Do you even know anyone that works in Javascript? I happen to like JS but pull out PHP or Python or whatever I need to get the job done when I have to. And I'm not an exception.

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PommeDeTerre12y ago

I've seen your flawed argument used more and more often around here lately. It's pretty disappointing to see.

Somebody speaking out against deeply broken technologies or bad ideas that have received a lot of hype lately does not mean that such a person "hates progress" or is "resistant to change" or any utter nonsense like that.

Likewise, adopting so-called "new ideas" or "new technologies" does not necessarily mean that real progress is actually being made. JavaScript and NoSQL, for example, are generally regressions in most respects, even relative to 1990s- or 1980s-era technologies.

True progress happens when we move beyond our current abilities. It is not progress in any sense when we start using inferior programming languages or databases, for example.

sanderjd12y ago

I always seem to see you in any thread involving "new" technologies that you find "inferior", most of which are not very new and, like all technologies, are tough to put on a precise inferiority/superiority scale in an objective context-insensitive way. I'm beginning to move past annoyance to pure curiosity - why do you care so much what technologies other people find useful? In what way does people's enjoyment of Ruby/Rails, Javascript, NoSQL, etc. harm you so much that you have decided to come and be nasty any time anybody speaks positively of them?

PommeDeTerre12y ago

Software doesn't exist in a vacuum. It often has a lifespan far in excess of the involvement of the original developers. It can also have a very serious impact upon its users, its subsequent maintainers, and any organizations they may belong to.

I could not care any less if hobbyist developers want to use Ruby on Rails, JavaScript and NoSQL for own their personal projects that nobody else ever uses or has to maintain.

It's a different situation when such objectively-flawed technologies are used beyond that, however.

The broken software you or others write today using such horrid technologies may very well end up being inherited and maintained by me or one of my teams later on. We won't be happy when we have to waste time, effort, money and opportunity dealing with it and its flaws.

There are numerous, far better options out there. There are just no excuses for using poor technologies these days.

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PommeDeTerre12y ago

I've seen your flawed argument used more and more often around here lately. It's pretty disappointing to see.

True progress happens when we move beyond our current abilities. It is not progress in any sense when we start using inferior programming languages or databases, for example.

sanderjd12y ago

PommeDeTerre12y ago

I could not care any less if hobbyist developers want to use Ruby on Rails, JavaScript and NoSQL for own their personal projects that nobody else ever uses or has to maintain.

It's a different situation when such objectively-flawed technologies are used beyond that, however.

There are numerous, far better options out there. There are just no excuses for using poor technologies these days.

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