well, actually, I was talking about encoding other people's email, for a fee. The goal is to change the game and change the rules. The NSA has created this market. Let's use this to reshape the game.

> If you encode your communications there is a barrier that they will break down directly by making you disclose the keys while threatening with Tax audits, jail time etc.

This is true, so the game is not just to get your own keys taken care of but everyone else's and locate the business in a country that will be better interested and able to stand up to NSA interests here.

> Or by breaking down encryption commications. They are the largest employer of IT/Security/Cryptographers on the face of the earth.

Again true, which is why the game has to change.

> So the only way to do this is to make them not play their game.

So the new game is to make sure as much traffic as possible is encrypted. All of the above take time. They could bug the end points, they could break down the encryption with massively parallel supercomputers. They could threaten individual users of the service.

So the game is to make sure that everyone encrypts everything every time (or at least that enough do to make individualized efforts prohibitive on a dragnet scale).

We know they don't like that game. They've been trying to get control over all encryption since the days of Clinton but they haven't yet.

> Frankly whole cancerous security apparatus has been fueled by privatized sector just like the one with privatized jail system.

Very true. BTW, read "The Servile State" by Hilaire Belloc if you want a really depressing read....

> Sad to say this but there only way I can see this being resolved is political/etc. Start websites cover the stories. Find methods of figuring out whether they are listening to you or not. For example set up fake drug deals so you can draw them on fact of monitoring your communications. Sue them every instance you find them breaking down your doors. Yeah I know it is not pleasant.

If someone wants to, great. I am not in the US at the moment so my options are more limited.

> Also make working for contractors of NSA and being employee of NSA being a very unpatriotic and scummy thing to do - akin to digging around underwear drawer of your next door granny neighbor.

How do we do that? How many of us know such contractors?