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0 pointskarlkatzke12y ago0 comments

Can you spot the person who interviews well, but is a skilled sociopath who will destroy the morale of your team, causing other skilled talent to leave?

That's the value of these tests (when properly applied): They allow an evaluator to make statistically accurate predictions of specific types of behavior. The key is the two words: statistically and specific. A single composite score will not tell you anything, but the idea that there's a 68% chance that the person you're about to hire is a schizophrenic kleptomaniac should give you pause.

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batguano12y ago

> there's a 68% chance that the person you're about to hire is a schizophrenic kleptomaniac

Sorry, I don't believe "psychometric tests" can do that either. At least not at the level that we're talking about: distinguishing an otherwise qualified person from someone who's got some sort of psychopathology.

karlkatzkeOP12y ago

Then you didn't read the other replies in the original thread from actual research psychologists. They described the process and posted links to peer reviewed academic papers. Your baseless disbelief is equivalent to disavowing climate change or vaccines.

foobarbazqux12y ago

> the idea that there's a 68% chance that the person you're about to hire is a schizophrenic kleptomaniac should give you pause.

I don't believe in employment discrimination on the basis of mental illness. After all, John Nash was schizophrenic.

UK-Al0512y ago

You can't catch psychopaths using tests like these. The whole point of being a psychopaths is that you can change the perception of your personality at will.

So what your letting in is a subgroup of people who pass, and psychopaths.

theorique12y ago

That isn't actually what psychopathy means.

UK-Al0512y ago

It's not what it means, but it is something they are capable of. They can be charming, and they can be horrible. They decide what they are going to be like, to fit into an overall selfish strategy. If being shy is an advantage, they will become that. If being confident is advantage, they will become that. They can gain your trust, then flip when it is an advantage to do so.

In these tests, they know what to say, what to do, to give a certain impression. These tests can't catch them, because they are not honest, and lack integrity(No consistent values, only ones that benefit them).

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karlkatzkeOP12y ago

Again, go read the links that the actual PhDs in psychology posted in replies to the parent thread. They provided documentation in the form of peer-reviewed studies that back the claims that this kind of personality is detectable despite your belief that they are not.

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0 pointskarlkatzke12y ago0 comments

Can you spot the person who interviews well, but is a skilled sociopath who will destroy the morale of your team, causing other skilled talent to leave?

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batguano12y ago

> there's a 68% chance that the person you're about to hire is a schizophrenic kleptomaniac

karlkatzkeOP12y ago

foobarbazqux12y ago

> the idea that there's a 68% chance that the person you're about to hire is a schizophrenic kleptomaniac should give you pause.

I don't believe in employment discrimination on the basis of mental illness. After all, John Nash was schizophrenic.

UK-Al0512y ago

You can't catch psychopaths using tests like these. The whole point of being a psychopaths is that you can change the perception of your personality at will.

So what your letting in is a subgroup of people who pass, and psychopaths.

theorique12y ago

That isn't actually what psychopathy means.

UK-Al0512y ago

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karlkatzkeOP12y ago

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