Kraken.js: Enterprise-grade Node.js web application framework (opens in new tab)

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66 pointsmduvall12y ago20 comments

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Kraken is an offshoot from work at Paypal and just a few lines above this on the HN frontpage is a post about a Node memory leak post mortem from Wal-Mart. Over the next few years will we see Node become as commonplace in the enterprise as Java and .NET?

_random_12y ago

Enterprises don't need high-load web sites. Enterprises benefit from non-buggy strong static languages with automated refactoring.

twerquie12y ago

I'd say Walmart needs a high-load solution, as does paypal and LinkedIn who are both using node. Static vs dynamic languages both have merits and are almost completely subjective, but I'd say it comes down to team quality. Don't use the sharp tools if you have undiciplined or inexperienced devs who will fail to design correctly and write tests. Walmart has Eran Hammer, so I don't think they need to worry about that.

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nawitus12y ago

You can write Node.js backends in TypeScript with static typing and refactoring support.

fourstar12y ago

Walmart Labs has been doing lots of javascript for awhile. I believe they will probably release something similar soon as well.

jbigelow7612y ago

Yeah, when I saw they released the Hapi[1] framework for Node several months ago my initial reaction was "is Walmart Labs part of THE Walmart??"

1. http://spumko.github.io/ (Hapi used to be maintained within the Walmart Labs Github account but now falls under Spumko)

forsaken12y ago

I find it hard to believe it's Enterprise-grade when the documentation link points at a GitHub README.

ollysb12y ago

Sounds like a distinct improvement on most of the enterprise documentation I've seen (that's all of our documentation but if you need more specific help we've got some great consultants :).

TimFogarty12y ago

If you haven't seen Bill Scott's talk on Kraken.js, check it out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5yk5SZxWX4

taeric12y ago

Very interesting talk, thanks for sharing. I confess the cynical side of me thinks the majority of the hand waving about why it worked is summed in a single line of the last slide "ensure the best developers are on the initial work". That is, would Java truly be so bad if you were able to ensure that idea, as well?

Still, though, I am more interested in node having watched this.

jalan12y ago

How does this compare with Sails.js?

mostafah12y ago

When I read “Kraken.js” for a second I thought it’s a JS client for Asana’s Kraken project: https://github.com/Asana/kraken

Are we running out of names for open source projects?

gaius12y ago

You keep using that word. I don't think it means what you think it means.

dbond12y ago

Am I missing something here? All I can find is a bunch of middleware and grunt. I'm starting to get sick of open source projects leading with a shiny marketing site...

joshguthrie12y ago

I agree.

This looks too awkward to use, to accumulate middlewares only for a specific route,... Routes loading is just ridiculous actually, so much unneeded code in the example...

navneetpandey12y ago

I saw this on paypal post. Looking forward to release the kraken on some projects.

sideproject12y ago

This looks very very promising!

jeffallen676712y ago

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jbigelow7612y ago

_random_12y ago

Enterprises don't need high-load web sites. Enterprises benefit from non-buggy strong static languages with automated refactoring.

twerquie12y ago

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nawitus12y ago

You can write Node.js backends in TypeScript with static typing and refactoring support.

fourstar12y ago

Walmart Labs has been doing lots of javascript for awhile. I believe they will probably release something similar soon as well.

jbigelow7612y ago

Yeah, when I saw they released the Hapi[1] framework for Node several months ago my initial reaction was "is Walmart Labs part of THE Walmart??"

1. http://spumko.github.io/ (Hapi used to be maintained within the Walmart Labs Github account but now falls under Spumko)

forsaken12y ago

I find it hard to believe it's Enterprise-grade when the documentation link points at a GitHub README.

ollysb12y ago

Sounds like a distinct improvement on most of the enterprise documentation I've seen (that's all of our documentation but if you need more specific help we've got some great consultants :).

TimFogarty12y ago

If you haven't seen Bill Scott's talk on Kraken.js, check it out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5yk5SZxWX4

taeric12y ago

Still, though, I am more interested in node having watched this.

jalan12y ago

How does this compare with Sails.js?

mostafah12y ago

When I read “Kraken.js” for a second I thought it’s a JS client for Asana’s Kraken project: https://github.com/Asana/kraken

Are we running out of names for open source projects?

gaius12y ago

You keep using that word. I don't think it means what you think it means.

dbond12y ago

Am I missing something here? All I can find is a bunch of middleware and grunt. I'm starting to get sick of open source projects leading with a shiny marketing site...

joshguthrie12y ago

I agree.

This looks too awkward to use, to accumulate middlewares only for a specific route,... Routes loading is just ridiculous actually, so much unneeded code in the example...

navneetpandey12y ago

I saw this on paypal post. Looking forward to release the kraken on some projects.

sideproject12y ago

This looks very very promising!

jeffallen676712y ago

daddy like...

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