Sorry, just as a PHP developer who understands his language isn't perfect but is growing and fixing pains, it annoys me to see people who don't use or haven't used the language since PHP4 talk trash about it as if they've been a PHP developer for years and use it daily.
Rarely do you see PHP developers talking about the pitfalls of big frameworks and other languages.. For example XSS vulnerabilities that recently plagued Rails.
I too have upvoted both your replies to show no ill will. Beautiful day here in Chicago and I took a little time off to cruise the city before coming back and getting back to work. Really puts you in a good mood.