http://twitter.com/_why http://github.com/why http://whytheluckystiff.net/ http://poignantguide.net/ http://hackety.org/ http://shoooes.net/
All disappeared...
For those who don't know who I'm talking about: http://wikipedia.org/wiki/Why_the_lucky_stiff
If this is the reason _why decided to pick up and leave, I understand it. We have his code, it will live on. Perhaps he will return in another guise.
But I don't know enough about e-mail headers to provide an alternate explanation if there is one.
EDIT: This is that other guy's site, FWIW: http://jonathangillette.net/
And he's on twitter: http://twitter.com/jgillette
EDIT 2: The infamous Zed Shaw posted a link to another page which I'm more inclined to believe is the real _why. I'm not going to post the link here, but you can find it in Zed's twitter stream if you really want to.
Also, I think that, since he was hosting a lot of other sites on hobix, not just his personal stuff something could actually be wrong. So I am sharing this information. Please be responsible.
I dug up a Kylie Gillette who is the owner of snapd.net, Snapdragon Jewelry. A quick whois on that domain: Registrant: Layered Technologies TheLuckyStiff Why 1647 Witt Rd. Ste. # 20 Frisco, TX 75034 US +1.9723987998 86a756e735644786cd09875d0acb61365fb02f36@whois.gkg.net
So there is also this: http://www.assessor.slco.org/test/cfml/Query/valuationInfo.c...
What are the chances that a Jonathan Gillette hosting a website for Kylie Gillette who posted to a ruby mailing list as _why and Jonathan Gillette in 02 and 03 are different people? If something is wrong or something has happened to him IRL people would rest a little easier knowing what is going on.
http://74.125.155.132/search?client=safari&rls=en-us&...
Edit: Also, twitter search results:
http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%40_why
Notably:
racheltostring: RT: @_why: programming is rather thankless. u see your works become replaced by superior ones in a year. unable to run at all in a few more. about 21 hours ago from TwitterFox
Maybe he read http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=771057 in Re: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=771013 ?
"Clearly, the benchmarks you see on Ruby Inside are skewed to favor Nokogiri... Why not treat Hpricot fairly and use it properly in the benchmarks? It reeks of something."
Anyone who hasn't checked it out yet, do yourself a favour. And for the rest of us, who would like to remember this anonymous creator of cartoon foxes.
Let's hope it's just a quarter life crisis and that he's back soon. Or that he finds something else that makes him happier than programming.
It currently has a pdf of the guide.
So very sad.
Why strikes me as the kind of person who would delete his online presence on a whim, just because it would be fun.
Not impressed.
The fact that you would care more about his shepherding of repositories which have been available to everyone else all along speaks volumes to me about the kind of attitudes that probably helped to drive him offline in the first place.
They were git repos, right? I am new to git, but my understanding is you pretty much have to type
git clone --i-dont-want-a-full-copy-of-the-repository-please-screw-me-over-if-the-master-vanishes
to be in a position where you are "dependent" on the code (i.e. have looked at it, ever) and do not have a full copy of the entire project extending to the mists of prehistory.
[Edit: apparently the actual command is
git clone --depth (some number)
I like my version better.]
Then I thought - what if, e.g., Zed Shaw had done this? I have a feeling we'd all be calling for his head and claiming it was the biggest douchebag move he could make. So does _why get a free pass? Because he's so likable and has a special pedestal in the Ruby world?
I honestly don't know the answer to that, but it made me reconsider my gut knee-jerk reaction.
on the other hand, if this is a case of someone managing to crack/guess/etc his passwords and just wants to do some malicious damage, that would be too bad.
You're an important part of this community, _why. I hope you're not saying goodbye.
Strange indeed.
Registrar..: gkg.net (http://register.gkg.net/)
Domain Name: WHYTHELUCKYSTIFF.NET
Created on..............: 03-JAN-2002
Expires on..............: 03-JAN-2014
Record last updated on..: 24-DEC-2008
Status..................: ACTIVE
Registrar..: gkg.net (http://register.gkg.net/)
Domain Name: HACKETYHACK.NET
Created on..............: 25-FEB-2007
Expires on..............: 25-FEB-2010
Record last updated on..: 24-DEC-2008
Status..................: ACTIVE
Registrar..: gkg.net (http://register.gkg.net/)
Domain Name: POIGNANTGUIDE.NET
Created on..............: 20-NOV-2003
Expires on..............: 20-NOV-2010
Record last updated on..: 24-DEC-2008
Status..................: ACTIVE @_why: an ascending homage to fish bones. culminating in a delicate canopy of mouse furs.
RIP, online presence of _why_why: nailing a small ornate gold shelf at arm’s height above the bed for my cat to sit on. i give you: norton’s perch.
_why: i should probably have little teeny shelves all leading up to it. with their own miniature portraits or doll banisters or something.
strathmeyer: @_why Do cat structures last longer than programming structures?
_why: @strathmeyer hard to say, i guess if this feline staircase falls into disrepair, i’ll swap in a circular queue.
_why: an ascending homage to fish bones. culminating in a delicate canopy of mouse furs.
I will truly miss why's wonderful whimsy. :-(
This is a sad day.
Seriously though, I hope he's /okay/....
You're an important part of this community, _why. I hope you're not saying goodbye.
http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/9c5on/where_is_...
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/51/Whytheluc...
If that isn't Kylie ...
http://www.todaysbigthing.com/2009/08/11
I'll just assume _why is vacationing in Europe.
This guy is one of lord high masters of the geek art crafts and sciences.
Where ever you are Why, I hope you're all right..
get real he's only one person, if your community can't survive and thrive w/out him, it should die
Deliciously sweet chocolates (or libraries/books/hacketyhack/etc.) will hopefully magically still appear.
Maybe _why is simply going to oompa loompa land to get little helpers.
Aug 3rd: <quote> Okay, wow, hello, I'm very behind on this list, I hope you will pardon me. I've been away for the summer, taking a break from everything.
Well, enough of that, time's up: I hope to concentrate strictly on getting Shoes 3 done. While it's disappointing to see what a poor job I've done with Shoes, I am going to try to do what I can to aright the situation by at least getting us some more speed and stability. (As with all of my projects, it's just a toy experiment which is full of an unpredictable amount of both the sweet and bitter.)
My hope is to release the final version by September 7th. Please, if you want something fixed for Shoes 3, it will need to be filed on github, in the issues section. Yes, I think that will work just great.
_why </quote>
Perhaps this is a publicity stunt to popularize the new and improved Hackety Hack?!
But _why's contributions are largely irreplaceable. Yeah, software evolves and individual projects might be supplanted by others, but his contributions go way beyond simply writing functioning code.
Sadly this is not true for anyone.
ironically he wrote "you" on twitter, and you wrote "u" on hn.
Again, I don't travel in Ruby circles, so I don't know of _why and can't speak about him personally. I just seem to hear about specific developers from the Ruby circle more than, say, C#.
"Hmm, I think it's more possible that _why got hacked than he pulled a me." http://twitter.com/zedshaw/status/3409334842
This isn't anything super-scientific, I just forked the first google hit for site:github.com "fork of why/THISREPO" -- http://bit.ly/whyrepo
Still missing: greg rb_parse_args skistrap processor chirrup
But seriously, reading _why's poignant guide to ruby back in the day was a breath of fresh air coming from Java, and wanting to try something new. His intermingled illustrations and humorous text made a programming book that I actually found enjoyable to read. Also, his contributions in terms of libraries and interesting apps has been awesome.
_why: My hats off to you fine sir! May you find goodness on your latest adventures!
His feelings aren't hurt, I doubt that very much.
http://wiki.github.com/why/hpricot http://hpricot.com/
One of the most thoroughly documented libraries that I have used.
It's interesting that he gave a talk in 2005 called "A Starry Afternoon, a Sinking Symphony, and the Polo Champ Who Gave It All Up for No Reason Whatsoever" (from his Wikipedia article)
Anyone know anything about what he said about the Polo Champ in the talk?
_why has been a great contributor to the Ruby community... let's hope he reincarnates himself :)
I invite everyone to enjoy a video I set to some of his music, and reflect on his priceless contributions.
So, perhaps it is accurate, since it seems like the online persona has vanished, so in a way _why is no more.
Maybe the real person needed to escape from the persona... who knows?
Perhaps that has to do with the day that I woke up to NPR on the radio, and the announcer said "Douglas Adams... bestselling science-fiction writer..." and I immediately knew, before even hearing the next word, that my favorite author was dead.
I have flashbacks to that day. And I just had one now.
Worst. Linkbait. Ever.
EDIT: Weird, the repo description is "wtf adam, are you this slow". Hope he didn't get hacked.
EDIT 2: original link is dead.
emullet you worked at Inetz right?
friend 4:20 yeah
emullet 4:20 You work with a guy named Jonathan Gillette ?
friend 4:21 not allowed to answer that
emullet 4:21 lol why do you say that?
friend 4:21 but I've heard that a lot of his stuff "disappeared" today
emullet 4:21 ya you know whats up?
friend 4:21 nope
emullet 4:21 its very odd kinda cool he worked with you
HN post re: inteview: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=483207 http://_why.usesthis.com/ http://usesthis.com
Description: wtf adam, are you this slow
I'm guessing he got hacked.
Edit: Nevermind, the repo's been deleted.
If he wanted his twitter account to be taken by somebody else, he could have renamed it before deleting it. If you rename a twitter account, the old name is freed up instantly, but if you delete an account, it is held for an unknown period of time.
This site (linked to earlier in the thread) includes a picture of Jonathan Paul Gillette: http://www.uu.edu/centers/faculty/faculty/new/0607newfaculty...
The guy pictured on the faculty page matches the piggyback photo on http://www.jonathanpaulgillette.com/. Definitely not _why.
_why had a lot of projects, we can probably preserve most of them just with people pushing stuff they had cloned.
If nothing else, this is an excellent test of Git's distributed-self-healing goodness.
I really hope he comes back though.
Specifically, does anyone have a copy of his Potion (http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=425258) repository somewhere online?
I, up until today, didn't give two shits about ruby. I know that I had heard of this craaazzzyyyy "Ruby on Rails" jazz from about a year ago, and I know that people talked about it all the time, but I grabbed onto my python, looked the other way, and called it good.
Now, I want to learn ruby...
This guy seemed like he was all about teaching people Ruby, perhaps this was an attention grab?
-- George Bernard Shaw
I lament the departure of _why. However, it looks like his flame will continue to live on, even if he would have hoped otherwise. Thanks _why
from _why's twitter, 8/12/09.
I hope the guy surfaces somewhere soon. One of the most outwardly joyful computer folks I've ever seen.
You see, phoning seems rather creepy. And besides, I really don't have anything to ask him, or of him. He's taught us all so much already.
Yeah, a postcard seems best. Just a message in a bottle, a ping into the void. Naturally, the letter shall read in a language known well among those he has enlightened.
Thanks, old friend.
_why, you inspired me to be a developer.
"burying myself feet first in the woods with the hope that this will lead to a career as a much beloved and sought after mouth-under-a-rock."
Link to Google's cached _why Twitter page: http://bit.ly/2h5PKy
- Nobody died. How can you kill an idea? How can you kill the personification of an action?
- Then what died? Who are you mourning?
- A point of view.
Cain, Elbis O'Shaughnessy, and Abel, in Sandman: The Wake
(yes i'm double posting this, i feel that it is also appropriate here in the original thread)
Either he or the hackers or whoever is responsible for this forgot about his Flickr account.
I remember reading on his twitter something like, "a caller asks: should I use hpricot or nokogiri? If you're not me, use nokogiri. If you're me, then stop being me"
i have discovered that every... easily accessible (so far)... copy of his poignant guide to ruby
has disappeared as well
what an eff you
i'm pretty dissapointed.
if anyone has a copy, i would love to talk... i'm certainly the intended audience.
yooshooa@yahoo
It was released under CC Attribution-ShareAlike so there is no reason for it to disappear.
Mediafire link (is.gd'd) : http://is.gd/2p1Jd
Does anyone know what that means?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Why_the_lucky_stiff#Real_n...
"In the Kamigata area, they have a sort of tiered lunchbox they use for a single day when flower viewing. Upon returning, they throw them away, trampling them underfoot. The end is important in all things." (emphasis added)
Rest in peace, _why! You were but a hero, but now you are a legend.
But why he'd commit a virtual suicide like this?
http://www.wired.com/beyond_the_beyond/2009/08/kevin-mitnick...