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0 pointspessimizer11y ago0 comments

>Not doing something can't make you more suspicious.

That's just stupid.

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No. That's common sense. If you don't do something on the internet, there is no data. No data = nothing suspicious.

There is no state of no data. You are known to exist, you are known for not participating in something that is common for your group. That, in combination with the thousands of other data points about you will determine whether you are of interest. That may determine whether your car gets searched during a traffic stop, or whether you're put on a no-fly list.

This is not complicated to build, it is simple to build, and the only logical way of accomplishing what the government claims that they're attempting to accomplish.

Holbein11y ago

I think you're overestimating the NSA's capability to cross-reference your actions and compare them to "what people like me should typically do".

My point is, you should not change your behaviour to be a lesser target to the NSA. You'd just quickly become super paranoid. Instead you should live your live exactly the same, and if the NSA tries to make your live bad, that's the moment when you call them out on it - after all, it's the NSA that is behaving out of line. So they should change, not you.

Oh, and http://defundthensa.com/ , sure.

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TeMPOraL11y ago

No data may be very suspicious if some data is expected to be found. See http://abstrusegoose.com/396 for an illustrative example.

rosser11y ago

The absence of data is, itself, data.

NotAtWork11y ago

The lack of data about you on the internet is likely more anomalous than whatever data you're trying to hide originally was.

Not finding something when you should find something is suspicious.

sliverstorm11y ago

Have you never heard the classic movie line?

It's quiet. TOO quiet.

happyscrappy11y ago

Even if you go full Stallman data leaks everywhere. Credit card purchase data is bought and sold daily as is satellite imaging time.

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Holbein11y ago

No. That's common sense. If you don't do something on the internet, there is no data. No data = nothing suspicious.

pessimizerOP11y ago

This is not complicated to build, it is simple to build, and the only logical way of accomplishing what the government claims that they're attempting to accomplish.

Holbein11y ago

I think you're overestimating the NSA's capability to cross-reference your actions and compare them to "what people like me should typically do".

Oh, and http://defundthensa.com/ , sure.

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TeMPOraL11y ago

No data may be very suspicious if some data is expected to be found. See http://abstrusegoose.com/396 for an illustrative example.

rosser11y ago

The absence of data is, itself, data.

NotAtWork11y ago

The lack of data about you on the internet is likely more anomalous than whatever data you're trying to hide originally was.

Not finding something when you should find something is suspicious.

sliverstorm11y ago

Have you never heard the classic movie line?

It's quiet. TOO quiet.

happyscrappy11y ago

Even if you go full Stallman data leaks everywhere. Credit card purchase data is bought and sold daily as is satellite imaging time.

j / k navigate · click thread line to collapse