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0 pointsdelluminatus11y ago0 comments

I think his point is more that it's typically easier and better to use preexisting contact form and file upload solutions, instead of writing your own (with jQuery or otherwise).

Personally I can see the benefit of banging out a form in jQuery instead of having to research and integrate another system, but something about the chapter summaries seem strange. It sounds like it's more about building custom front-end components than integrating different libraries (which is what I expected from the title).

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msurguy11y ago

Thanks for the clarification. The chapter summaries on the maxoffsky.com/frontend page?

delluminatusOP11y ago

Yeah, in particular the lines:

* Creating AJAX contact form

* Building AJAX registration/login forms

Maybe it's just me, but that language kind of reminds me of the copy-paste era of Javascript development, where developers who don't understand JS semantics jump right into messing with login systems. Like 10 years ago it would have been "Building DHTML page counters". OFC I don't know if that impression reflects the actual material or not, though.

IMO if you're going to tell someone how to build AJAX contact forms, you would be better served writing a library to do it for them with a comprehensible API that makes it hard for people to fuck it up, or to start by explaining the basics of jQuery AJAX and selectors and event handlers and let people build the idea themselves from solid foundations. If someone really groks jQuery (or even vanilla JS), writing a contact form is a little tedious but not something that needs a tutorial or guide.

msurguy11y ago

Sure. I'll clarify about the material and progression so that it's clear.

First you build the HTML of the form (chapter 1 covers that). Then you learn how to work with visual feedback (spinners and alerts, chapters 2 & 3). Then creating AJAX contact form integrates the stuff from chapters 1-3 to create AJAX contact form and connect it with the backend. Chapter 5 goes a step further - building login and registration forms using stuff from chapters 1-4 plus inline validation, integrating all previous components and things you built.

The book isn't for noobs. The prerequisites section (https://leanpub.com/frontend/read#leanpub-auto-about-the-aut...) clearly explains that so the developers who don't understand JS semantics or don't know the basics of web applications should learn something else before they get back to this book.

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0 pointsdelluminatus11y ago0 comments

I think his point is more that it's typically easier and better to use preexisting contact form and file upload solutions, instead of writing your own (with jQuery or otherwise).

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msurguy11y ago

Thanks for the clarification. The chapter summaries on the maxoffsky.com/frontend page?

delluminatusOP11y ago

Yeah, in particular the lines:

* Creating AJAX contact form

* Building AJAX registration/login forms

msurguy11y ago

Sure. I'll clarify about the material and progression so that it's clear.

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