When I was around 13 I learned some Visual Basic and started toying around with boxes bouncing around screens. At some point I decided I should better hop on to Visual C++, don't remember what I read to convince me in that direction. I tried really hard to grasp it, the Object Orientation and all, but whether I wasn't determined enough or my brain still wasn't quite up to the complexity I don't know--it ended up turning me away from programming for around 5 years until I came back to tame OO through Visual C#. Moving to JavaScript thereafter was so freeing (and Unix), and then I was fast on my track to functional programming in JS and eventually lisp (through Clojure.) I could believe this interview's every word was true, though I'm not sure what could have been instead of C++ for fast native applications (Scheme?)