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0 pointsminthd10y ago0 comments

Maybe i'm reading this wrong, but this sounds like Google gets your browsing history:

"If you sign in to Chrome browser, Chrome OS or an Android device that includes Chrome as a preinstalled application with your Google Account, this will enable the synchronization feature. Google will store certain information, such as HISTORY, bookmarked URLs as well as an image and a sample of text from the bookmarked page, passwords and other settings, on Google's servers "

And this isn't that far from full browsing behavior.And that's from a few minutes reading this page - we don't know if they track deeper details - like how long the page was open.

Also - Google doesn't have to collect this data. The claimed purpose of this is that you could share history on multiple devices. But this can also be achieved by sending encrypted history to Google and decrypting the history on each device you use(i think browser extensions with similar functions implement this in that way). So it's clear the purpose here is collecting data.

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snowwrestler10y ago

How is this feature any different from the Firefox, IE, and Safari browser sync services?

The fact that Google synchronizes data between browsers does not necessarily mean their search application has access to it as a ranking signal.

asuffield10y ago

Notice that this is a feature you have to turn on (try it!). Obviously in order to perform cross-device synchronisation, it's necessary to send this information.

I'm not free to discuss the details of how these systems work, but consider this: if both the statements "Google will store this information" and "the fact that you are using Chrome does not cause Google to receive any special or additional personally identifying information about you" are hard requirements, how would you implement this feature?

minthdOP10y ago

Of course "the fact that you are using Chrome does not cause Google to receive any special or additional personally identifying information about you." could be true.

But Agreeing to sign to the history sync feature is something different , not covered by "using Google Chrome".So now Google is free to use your history.

And let's be realistic here. Most people don't think about the implications of login into Google(even if it says sync of bookmarks , history etc) and probably don't read the instructions. Many even don't understand what it means. And realistically most people see a Google login box which they filled a million times, and fill it once more, as a sort of a pavlovian response.

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minthdOP10y ago

>> Notice that this is a feature you have to turn on (try it!)

This isn't true , according to this post in google product forums(and others like it who complain about unwanted sharing and how stop it) :

https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/chrome/hOk8r9...

And personally i've tried it , and that's false - the default is history sharing.

I don't want to be rude, but are you some kind of a troll, or just enjoying spreading lies ?

asuffield10y ago

The answer given there is simply not correct. Click: settings, advanced sync settings, uncheck "history".

I am quite confident that the default behaviour when you install chrome is that you are not signed in. It definitely doesn't share any history when you're not signed in. It wouldn't make a lot of sense to have a login box otherwise ;)

I also feel that the message you get when you decide whether or not to sign in to chrome makes the purpose of this feature quite clear: "Sign in to get your bookmarks, history and settings on all your devices." Here's the detailed page it links to: https://www.google.com/intl/en_uk/chrome/browser/signin.html

I'm not sure what behaviour you were expecting, can you clarify?

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rockdoe10y ago

Notice that this is a feature you have to turn on (try it!).

Can you use an Android phone without this? AFAIK that's essentially impossible without very deep technical knowledge.

asuffield10y ago

Yes, you can. If you use a clean Nexus build then last time I tried it, the behaviour was that the first time I opened Chrome it asked me if I wanted to sign in to chrome to share my history and bookmarks between devices, and I had a simple yes/no choice. I don't think this needed any deep technical knowledge.

I'm not intimately familiar with the android chrome settings UI, so I apologise if I've missed an easier way, but in about 30 seconds of tapping I found the button to turn it off: main settings page, accounts, my google account, sync, uncheck chrome.

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0 pointsminthd10y ago0 comments

Maybe i'm reading this wrong, but this sounds like Google gets your browsing history:

And this isn't that far from full browsing behavior.And that's from a few minutes reading this page - we don't know if they track deeper details - like how long the page was open.

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snowwrestler10y ago

How is this feature any different from the Firefox, IE, and Safari browser sync services?

The fact that Google synchronizes data between browsers does not necessarily mean their search application has access to it as a ranking signal.

asuffield10y ago

Notice that this is a feature you have to turn on (try it!). Obviously in order to perform cross-device synchronisation, it's necessary to send this information.

minthdOP10y ago

Of course "the fact that you are using Chrome does not cause Google to receive any special or additional personally identifying information about you." could be true.

But Agreeing to sign to the history sync feature is something different , not covered by "using Google Chrome".So now Google is free to use your history.

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minthdOP10y ago

>> Notice that this is a feature you have to turn on (try it!)

This isn't true , according to this post in google product forums(and others like it who complain about unwanted sharing and how stop it) :

https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/chrome/hOk8r9...

And personally i've tried it , and that's false - the default is history sharing.

I don't want to be rude, but are you some kind of a troll, or just enjoying spreading lies ?

asuffield10y ago

The answer given there is simply not correct. Click: settings, advanced sync settings, uncheck "history".

I'm not sure what behaviour you were expecting, can you clarify?

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rockdoe10y ago

Notice that this is a feature you have to turn on (try it!).

Can you use an Android phone without this? AFAIK that's essentially impossible without very deep technical knowledge.

asuffield10y ago

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