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0 pointslern_too_spel10y ago0 comments

Just like they had no skin in the game with SPDY? The vast majority of their revenue stream comes from the web platform, and video is becoming more important to the success of any development platform as bandwidth gets cheaper. Unlike the other companies, they don't care about getting paid for the video technology itself, which would only slow down video adoption on the web. Unlike Apple and Microsoft (both perennial laggards on html5test.com), which have alternate platforms to push, Google does not want to slow down adoption of video on the web.

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threeseed10y ago

It is a fact that the longer a page takes to render affects the number of users who stay on that page. That would be pretty damn important for a company who makes most of their revenue from web advertising. Which is why Google will continue to push ANY technology e.g. SPDY that makes web pages faster.

VP9 does not fit in with their goal of getting more eyeballs on ads which is what makes it odd for them to push. There is no evidence what so ever of H.264 has resulted or will continue to result in a lack of adoption of video on the web. All evidence is to the contrary. In fact it is the strength of YouTube that has resulted in a lack of diversity in video sites.

blackoil10y ago

If VP9 is just 5% better, bandwidth saving itself for YouTube will be substantial, also if ads do not buffer, they'll be more acceptable than video ads that buffer.

acdha10y ago

> If VP9 is just 5% better, bandwidth saving itself for YouTube will be substantial

You should look at this from a business perspective: how substantial would those savings need to be to justify a billion-dollar scale investment?

VP9 codec development alone has been expensive and that's not even including the significant hardware engineering costs needed to make it competitive with the MPEG group's standards on all but the highest-end desktop computers.

Meanwhile, H.264 is a mature, widely-adopted technology and H.265 is following the same path (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Efficiency_Video_Coding_im...) with many implementations announced.

YouTube makes money from people watching video, not from sales of any particular video codec. They're already using H.264 for everything and will need to add H.265 support for the same reason.

So if we look at this from the perspective of a business manager:

1. Make a significant investment making VP9 appealing enough to produce the widespread adoption needed to see significant bandwidth savings.

2. Use the same MPEG codecs for all visitors – dropping support for interoperability with Apple, Microsoft, etc. isn't likely so they're going to need an H.265 path either way. This has no significant upfront costs because they can use the same tools as everyone else and get the same bandwidth savings.

From that perspective, the question is really whether the HEVC license fees are going to be higher than the cost of funding VP9. There's some intangible value in having an alternative if the MPEG group gets greedy and it might help them negotiate more favorable rates, too, but I'm pretty sure none of that is enough to confidently say that Google's senior management won't consider cutting it the next time they need the right news for Wall Street.

mda10y ago

I really can't follow your logic.

On the contrary, Google spends a lot of resources to make web faster, research shown that faster web sites creates better user engagement and satisfaction, hence better revenue.

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