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While it is true that Borg is 10 years ahead of Kubernetes, we have the benefit of knowing where Borg arrived rather than following the same winding course.

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fweespeech10y ago

Of course, but unless there is a massive maintainability flaw in Borg, its unlikely you can duplicate 10 years of effort AND maintain pace with Borg's/Borg's successor(s) progress.

Well, without a huge influx of developers to the open source side.

thockingoogOP10y ago

First, there are a LOT of people working on Kubernetes right now.

Second, of course it will be asymptotic for a long time. But keep in mind that we don't want or need everything that Borg has, and Borg does not have everything that Kubernetes does. Kubernetes is not a clone of Borg - it is inspired by the lessons and experiences we got by doing Borg. Often that means we learned how NOT to do something.

If we can get 75% as functional as Borg in 1/3 the time, we'll be doing pretty darn well. I think we're on track for that.

fweespeech10y ago

> If we can get 75% as functional as Borg in 1/3 the time, we'll be doing pretty darn well. I think we're on track for that.

I'm sure you can do that. That doesn't invalidate my statement that it isn't surprising Google would do this precisely because it'll only be 75% as functional as Borg at any given point in time.

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fweespeech10y ago

Of course, but unless there is a massive maintainability flaw in Borg, its unlikely you can duplicate 10 years of effort AND maintain pace with Borg's/Borg's successor(s) progress.

Well, without a huge influx of developers to the open source side.

thockingoogOP10y ago

First, there are a LOT of people working on Kubernetes right now.

If we can get 75% as functional as Borg in 1/3 the time, we'll be doing pretty darn well. I think we're on track for that.

fweespeech10y ago

> If we can get 75% as functional as Borg in 1/3 the time, we'll be doing pretty darn well. I think we're on track for that.

I'm sure you can do that. That doesn't invalidate my statement that it isn't surprising Google would do this precisely because it'll only be 75% as functional as Borg at any given point in time.

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