Ask HN: GoDaddy is refusing to take action against Domain Fraud, What can we do?

3 pointspushkargaikwad7y ago8 comments

Hi, I am part of AeroLeads.com and some of our customers informed us a few days back saying they are getting emails from "aero-leads.com" pretending to be us. Few of them were confused why we changed the domain too!

I immediately sent an email to GoDaddy (where the fraud/phishing domain is registered). I actually sent an email to their all 3 - Abuse, Domain Fraud and Phishing departments forwarding those emails along with detailed explanation but GoDaddy has replied saying that they can't and won't do anything.

May I know what options I have to stop these emails being sent and preferably, removing that domain.

Some of the options I am considering is -

1. Call GoDaddy on 480-624-2505 (their "abuse" number) and tell them that we are going to take legal action if you don't do anything.

2. Complaint to ICANN (I am unsure what they will do).

Anything else we can do?

Thanks

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rgbrenner7y ago

You can probably get the domain using WIPO. See the UDRP.

http://www.wipo.int/amc/en/domains/guide/

pushkargaikwadOP7y ago

Thanks for the link. It seems they have a fee of $1500 http://www.wipo.int/amc/en/domains/guide/#i1, I will keep this as an option and will try to resolve it at Registrar/ICANN level itself.

rgbrenner7y ago

It's going to be more than that.. because you should probably get a lawyer to handle it for you.

ICANN has adopted the UDRP. WIPO handles the cases.

Godaddy isn't going to do anything unless they agree it violates their terms of service... and it sounds like they don't.

Legal options? I assume you don't even know where the squatter is.

About the only other thing you can do is put up a notice and advise your customers about phishing attempts.

(Edit: maybe you can try convincing Godaddy by pointing out specifically how it violates their ToS and why you would win the WIPO case. Also sending it to their lawyers address would get you more attention.)

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throwaway88797y ago

Perhaps look for legal representation? I moved off GoDaddy when that big migration to Namecheap happened and have avoided them since. There was one domain that I'd forgotten to move and tried to transfer it a few months ago, which they had some bizarre 90 days "lock" on. Anyway, it wasn't very important so I just let it go rather than deal with Godaddy.

pushkargaikwadOP7y ago

Thanks for the reply. I am gathering all the information and hoping it can get resolved without going the legal route. I am certainly going to call GoDaddy and discuss possible legal action option too.

detaro7y ago

3. Talk to law enforcement or ask your customers to do so (not sure who has the better standing to get something done?). Even if they don't do anything, might help get GoDaddy to take it seriously?

pushkargaikwadOP7y ago

Thanks for the reply. I am curious to know if there is anything close to global internet law which covers such cases considering we are not in the US nor the fraud domain owner.

Taking help of our customers is actually a good idea. I am mailing them about this right now.

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Ask HN: GoDaddy is refusing to take action against Domain Fraud, What can we do?

3 pointspushkargaikwad7y ago8 comments

May I know what options I have to stop these emails being sent and preferably, removing that domain.

Some of the options I am considering is -

1. Call GoDaddy on 480-624-2505 (their "abuse" number) and tell them that we are going to take legal action if you don't do anything.

2. Complaint to ICANN (I am unsure what they will do).

Anything else we can do?

Thanks

8 comments

rgbrenner7y ago

You can probably get the domain using WIPO. See the UDRP.

http://www.wipo.int/amc/en/domains/guide/

pushkargaikwadOP7y ago

Thanks for the link. It seems they have a fee of $1500 http://www.wipo.int/amc/en/domains/guide/#i1, I will keep this as an option and will try to resolve it at Registrar/ICANN level itself.

rgbrenner7y ago

It's going to be more than that.. because you should probably get a lawyer to handle it for you.

ICANN has adopted the UDRP. WIPO handles the cases.

Godaddy isn't going to do anything unless they agree it violates their terms of service... and it sounds like they don't.

Legal options? I assume you don't even know where the squatter is.

About the only other thing you can do is put up a notice and advise your customers about phishing attempts.

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throwaway88797y ago

pushkargaikwadOP7y ago

detaro7y ago

3. Talk to law enforcement or ask your customers to do so (not sure who has the better standing to get something done?). Even if they don't do anything, might help get GoDaddy to take it seriously?

pushkargaikwadOP7y ago

Thanks for the reply. I am curious to know if there is anything close to global internet law which covers such cases considering we are not in the US nor the fraud domain owner.

Taking help of our customers is actually a good idea. I am mailing them about this right now.

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