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0 pointsaccount421y ago0 comments

Seeing someone ignore the naysayers and attempt the so-called impossible task of developing a new independent browser is awesome to see. It brings a glimmer of hope that the internet is not doomed to be ruled by advertising companies with only a stagnant controlled opposition browser as the alternative.

That said, Ladybird is obviously far from becoming the daily driver for the average webizen. What do you think is going to be the first milestone where Ladybird is going to be able to be a real alternative (even if limited to certain use cases) and in what timeframe do you think this can be accomplished?

Also, do you already have any plans or ideas for how to improve the web browsing experience beyond what existing browsers provide or is your focus entirely on the engine catching up for now?

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awesomekling1y ago

> What do you think is going to be the first milestone where Ladybird is going to be able to be a real alternative (even if limited to certain use cases) and in what timeframe do you think this can be accomplished?

At the moment, we are focusing primarily on our own use cases as developers, since those are the easiest to test and qualify. So websites like GitHub, web specifications, MDN, etc. are likely going to be very high fidelity before other parts of the web catch up ;)

> Also, do you already have any plans or ideas for how to improve the web browsing experience beyond what existing browsers provide or is your focus entirely on the engine catching up for now?

We are definitely focused on the engine catching up right now. There is an incredible amount of work to do, and we're doing the best we can :)

acedTrex1y ago

I think thats a very smart plan, get the websites that devs frequent up and running relatively reliably to help drive more dev use and therefore more willing contributors.

Ygg21y ago

> Seeing someone ignore the naysayers and attempt the so-called impossible task of developing a new independent browser is awesome to see

Well the impossibility isn't so much in making a browser but making a browser that manages to get a chunk of web audience.

That means presence on mobile, feature and performance parity with Chrome, surprasing Chrome on some level (e.g. Safari having better vendor lock-in).

nwienert1y ago

Safari is better than Chrome in many ways, arguably most.

Ygg21y ago

Sure, it does have some benefits. Like lower energy consumption, I hear good things about JavaScriptCore (Safari's JS engine), that said, so many of the features are missing, and one part is it encroaching on the iOS apps territory.

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talldayo1y ago

A fact that appears to be lost on the majority of users that have a say in what browser they use: https://gs.statcounter.com/browser-market-share/desktop/worl...

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mjaniczek1y ago

I'm pretty sure the impossibility advertised back then was also about just making a browser.

sph1y ago

> Seeing someone ignore the naysayers and attempt the so-called impossible task of developing a new independent browser is awesome to see

According to Hacker News readers, the ladybird shouldn't be able to compete in the browser space. It's too difficult, the spec is too large, its competitors have large pockets. The ladybird tries anyway, because ladybirds don't care about what HN readers think.

Inspired by https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/823379-according-to-all-kno...

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0 pointsaccount421y ago0 comments

Also, do you already have any plans or ideas for how to improve the web browsing experience beyond what existing browsers provide or is your focus entirely on the engine catching up for now?

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awesomekling1y ago

> Also, do you already have any plans or ideas for how to improve the web browsing experience beyond what existing browsers provide or is your focus entirely on the engine catching up for now?

We are definitely focused on the engine catching up right now. There is an incredible amount of work to do, and we're doing the best we can :)

acedTrex1y ago

I think thats a very smart plan, get the websites that devs frequent up and running relatively reliably to help drive more dev use and therefore more willing contributors.

Ygg21y ago

> Seeing someone ignore the naysayers and attempt the so-called impossible task of developing a new independent browser is awesome to see

Well the impossibility isn't so much in making a browser but making a browser that manages to get a chunk of web audience.

That means presence on mobile, feature and performance parity with Chrome, surprasing Chrome on some level (e.g. Safari having better vendor lock-in).

nwienert1y ago

Safari is better than Chrome in many ways, arguably most.

Ygg21y ago

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talldayo1y ago

A fact that appears to be lost on the majority of users that have a say in what browser they use: https://gs.statcounter.com/browser-market-share/desktop/worl...

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mjaniczek1y ago

I'm pretty sure the impossibility advertised back then was also about just making a browser.

sph1y ago

> Seeing someone ignore the naysayers and attempt the so-called impossible task of developing a new independent browser is awesome to see

Inspired by https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/823379-according-to-all-kno...

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