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0 pointsaustin-cheney6mo ago0 comments

I believe they are honest because they are pushing factual numbers and speaking in reference to eye witness accounts.

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But we know, with absolute certainty, from the Dominion lawsuit subpoenas, that Tucker Carlson was privately telling people that Trump was awful, while publicly saying the opposite.

His private texts include, "We are very, very close to being able to ignore Trump most nights. I truly can't wait.”

And

"I hate him passionately. ... I can't handle much more of this”.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/tucker-carlson-endorses-donald-...

He was sending these texts while publicly repeating the standard Fox News lines about how great Trump is, etc.

How can you ever consider him honest, after this?

austin-cheneyOP6mo ago

This isn’t that. To consider his, or anyone else’s, honesty I compare what they say to the evidence they present and contrast that against competing claims from other sources.

kbrkbr6mo ago

So what you mean by "honest" is "they believe the same things as facts like I do, and draw the same conclusions?"

Or put differently: "they have the same world view as I have?"

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mdhb6mo ago

Is there something special about you that has you convinced you’re not being tricked? Like do you think you have some exceptionally good bullshit detector? I’m genuinely curious about the mentality here.

What lead you to believe you can take two people like Tucker Carlson and MTG who are PRIMARILY known for spouting bullshit and you can somehow magically decipher the signal from the noise? Is it just the topic of Israel that you agree with them on? What are you actually comparing them against? I’d love to know more about what you’re describing looks like in practice because it sounds very handwavy at the moment and maybe it would be a better discussion with concrete details.

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myvoiceismypass6mo ago

> I believe they are honest because they are pushing factual numbers and speaking in reference to eye witness accounts.

In 2018, MTG suggested that the CA fires were a result of The Rothchilds sending laser beams to earth and missing their intended target.

austin-cheneyOP6mo ago

Political theater.

kbrkbr6mo ago

I am skeptical of any numbers from a war zone with a public relations war going on at the same time. This appears to be generally admitted, as witnessed by quotes as the long standing and cross cultural "the first casualty of war is truth." [1]

So I'm curious. How do you know the numbers are factual and they eye witnesses are what they say they are?

[1] https://quoteinvestigator.com/2020/04/11/casualty/

austin-cheneyOP6mo ago

Sure, so get foreign journalists in there so that we can all know for sure. Until such time I will retain the personal opinion that Israel is lying about everything.

kbrkbr6mo ago

But Hamas is not?

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dleary6mo ago

But we know, with absolute certainty, from the Dominion lawsuit subpoenas, that Tucker Carlson was privately telling people that Trump was awful, while publicly saying the opposite.

His private texts include, "We are very, very close to being able to ignore Trump most nights. I truly can't wait.”

And

"I hate him passionately. ... I can't handle much more of this”.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/tucker-carlson-endorses-donald-...

He was sending these texts while publicly repeating the standard Fox News lines about how great Trump is, etc.

How can you ever consider him honest, after this?

austin-cheneyOP6mo ago

This isn’t that. To consider his, or anyone else’s, honesty I compare what they say to the evidence they present and contrast that against competing claims from other sources.

kbrkbr6mo ago

So what you mean by "honest" is "they believe the same things as facts like I do, and draw the same conclusions?"

Or put differently: "they have the same world view as I have?"

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mdhb6mo ago

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myvoiceismypass6mo ago

> I believe they are honest because they are pushing factual numbers and speaking in reference to eye witness accounts.

In 2018, MTG suggested that the CA fires were a result of The Rothchilds sending laser beams to earth and missing their intended target.

austin-cheneyOP6mo ago

Political theater.

kbrkbr6mo ago

So I'm curious. How do you know the numbers are factual and they eye witnesses are what they say they are?

[1] https://quoteinvestigator.com/2020/04/11/casualty/

austin-cheneyOP6mo ago

Sure, so get foreign journalists in there so that we can all know for sure. Until such time I will retain the personal opinion that Israel is lying about everything.

kbrkbr6mo ago

But Hamas is not?

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