Ask HN: What makes it so hard to keep LLMs online?

3 pointsrealberkeaslan1mo ago7 comments

It feels like every few days one of the big AI services is down, degraded, or just slow. I don't mean this as a complaint. I'm just genuinely curious. These are well-funded companies with smart people. What is it about running these models that makes reliability so elusive? Is it just demand nobody predicted, or is there something fundamentally different about serving AI vs. a normal web app?

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angarrido1mo ago

must people think it’s just GPU cost. In practice it’s coordination: model latency variance + queueing + retries under load. You don’t scale linearly, you get cascading slowdowns.

zipy1241mo ago

Likely one large contributor is that for a normal service, if it's down it's as simple as re-routing to another service, and there is basically an unlimited amount of CPU servers around the world to spin up on demand. GPU servers are much harder to spin up on demand, as supply is so constrained.

Another factor is just it's a new field and move fast and break things is still the go to as competition is high, and the stakes are incredibly high monetary wise.

A pessimistic, but perhaps true theory is also just vibe-coding/slop is reducing their reliability.

A counter point is that regular services like github seem to go down almost as frequently.

blemis1mo ago

honestly it's mostly gpu supply. scaling up to handle load means spinning up new nodes, and that takes minutes not seconds because the models are huge and need multiple coordinated gpus per instance.

also worth saying, even when things are "up" you often get different answers to the same question. that's the reliability problem nobody talks about. fine for a chatbot, not fine if you're building anything that needs to be repeatable and deterministic... i moved more to the ML route, but i guess it depends on what you are trying to do.

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