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0 pointsearlz12y ago0 comments

No, and being able to download all the FAQs easily is cool but there are things where it actually impacts me. For instance, I have a netbook without a cdrom drive or floppy disk. So, to install OpenBSD on it, I had to first install OpenBSD onto another PC computer, and then run makeboot and such on my USB drive and copy over the ramdisk.

Apparently the cited excuse for why they don't support USB bootable media is because it's hard because some computers only support floppy emulator or don't support it, and there are many bugs in USB boot for older BIOS.. But that doesn't keep every other operating system of this day and age supporting it

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okasaki12y ago

That can't be true. I used to run OpenBSD on a netbook and I'm pretty you can just dd the cdrom image onto a usb stick and boot that.

csmuk12y ago

Yeah I do the same with the USB stick as its easier than CD media. I have a vbox VM ready to roll for such occasions.

I have had numerous problems on older Dell/HP machines with USB booting anything so it's reasonable. I buy the official media even though I rarely use it.

retzkek12y ago

You can cut out one step by directly installing OpenBSD on the USB drive, and then when you boot on the target machine enter "bsd.rd" at the boot prompt.

calvin_12y ago

If you use GRUB, try copying bsd.rd to /boot, and running kopenbsd bsd.rd - it's really neat, no external media necessary!

itwontdie12y ago

I ran into this problem as well at first. The issue is easily overcome as described at the following URL.

http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq4.html#noflopcd

Can this easily be done from any Linux distribution? AFAIK it can not, instead they waste resources creating USB installs and images.

ciupicri12y ago

> Can this easily be done from any Linux distribution?

Let's see...

> Network boot, using PXE (i386 or amd64) or diskless(8) (other platforms).

Red Hat and Fedora had this for ages. Also the installa media can be on a FTP, HTTP or NFS server.

> External USB CD-ROM or USB floppy, if your machine can boot from one.

This should work with most Linux distributions, too.

> USB Flash disk or hard disk

The same.

> Worst case, if none of the above is suitable, you can usually pull the disk out of the target system, use suitable adapters to install it in a "normal" computer, install OpenBSD, then replace the disk back in the target system.

Again this should be possible with most Linux distributions.

Now does OpenBSD have an automated installer?

csmuk12y ago

> Now does OpenBSD have an automated installer?

Yes. You can use expect with /install easily and you can simply add your own local "site set" tgz which can be hosted on a local HTTP/FTP server to apply any local customisations.

However, if you're provisioning lots of machines, it's very easy just to "restore" filesystems off a bootable USB stick, mount them, set the hostname then tell ansible/puppet to do the rest. Don't need kickstart or any of that crap.

Personally though I'd just netboot lots of systems off PXE/TFTP, NFS mount all filesystems and have local swap disk only. I used to do that with Sun systems. We had 50 SPARCstation 5's booting off a SPARCserver 1000E on Solaris and it worked nicely. OpenBSD works pretty much the same. Linux is a piece of crap to netboot.

Plenty of ways to skin that cat.

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okasaki12y ago

That can't be true. I used to run OpenBSD on a netbook and I'm pretty you can just dd the cdrom image onto a usb stick and boot that.

csmuk12y ago

Yeah I do the same with the USB stick as its easier than CD media. I have a vbox VM ready to roll for such occasions.

I have had numerous problems on older Dell/HP machines with USB booting anything so it's reasonable. I buy the official media even though I rarely use it.

retzkek12y ago

You can cut out one step by directly installing OpenBSD on the USB drive, and then when you boot on the target machine enter "bsd.rd" at the boot prompt.

calvin_12y ago

If you use GRUB, try copying bsd.rd to /boot, and running kopenbsd bsd.rd - it's really neat, no external media necessary!

itwontdie12y ago

I ran into this problem as well at first. The issue is easily overcome as described at the following URL.

http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq4.html#noflopcd

Can this easily be done from any Linux distribution? AFAIK it can not, instead they waste resources creating USB installs and images.

ciupicri12y ago

> Can this easily be done from any Linux distribution?

Let's see...

> Network boot, using PXE (i386 or amd64) or diskless(8) (other platforms).

Red Hat and Fedora had this for ages. Also the installa media can be on a FTP, HTTP or NFS server.

> External USB CD-ROM or USB floppy, if your machine can boot from one.

This should work with most Linux distributions, too.

> USB Flash disk or hard disk

The same.

Again this should be possible with most Linux distributions.

Now does OpenBSD have an automated installer?

csmuk12y ago

> Now does OpenBSD have an automated installer?

Yes. You can use expect with /install easily and you can simply add your own local "site set" tgz which can be hosted on a local HTTP/FTP server to apply any local customisations.

Plenty of ways to skin that cat.

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