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Mathematician: That will be confirmed by another mathematician.
Programmer: How do we know that this other mathematician is not lying?
Mathematician: That will be ascertained by yet another mathematician.
Programmer: Theory of deception says that your Russell-Whitehead notation is gradually but surely turning you into a colluding gang of liars and impostors. In other words, none of you cannot be trusted. May I ask you: You do not really desire to solve the problem, do you?
Mathematician: True. We like things to be this way. There is simply no problem, and that is why all of us strive to find a job at the NSA. As I told you already, the problem that you are talking about, is just an illusion.